Trudeau spoke to parents concerned with their right to decide what their children are taught in schools. The group of Muslim parents were very worried about the "gender ideology" being forced on their children. The reporter called his answer evasive. Listen for yourself; here's what he said in full,
"I've heard this concern many, many times, and I know that it is a very real issue. First of all, there is an awful lot of misinformation and disinformation out there are people on social media, particularly fueled by the American right-wing, who are spreading a lot of untruths about what's actually in the provincial curriculums. The federal government doesn't control what's taught in the schools. That's the provincial government that controls what's taught in schools. That's not something that is directly on the federal government. But at the same time, the federal government is unequivocal about standing for everybody's rights and freedoms. And the highest expression of parental rights is, of course, the safety and well-being of the child. Your concern with the community is, broadly, safety, the well-being and strengthening the protection for your children. I entirely understand that.
The one thing that is really, really important in Canada, is, we're a place that stands up for everybody's rights, and certainly when it comes to the Muslim community. We were the government that pushed back against the conservatives that, you know, made a political campaign against the niqab, that brought in a snitch line against Muslims. You know, the Islamophobia pushed by the previous conservative government, in a whole bunch of different ways, was something that we all have stood against. Now, this government has and will always be the strongest ally to all minority communities, including particularly Muslims who have faced terrible violence. And when you look at the black Muslim women in Edmonton who were attacked, that is the Islamophobia that we absolutely have to stand against.
The issue though, is that the Charter of Rights and Freedoms that protects your religion gives you the freedom of religion, allows you to fully participate in the society that gives you all the protections, protects all minorities as well. And it's not a buffet. You can't get the protections you want out of the charter and leave aside others. Standing up for people's rights means standing up for everybody's rights.
Now, if you look at the various curriculums, you'll see that there is not what is being said out there about aggressive teaching or conversion of kids to being LGBT. That is something that is being weaponized by people who are not doing it because of their interest in supporting the Muslim community. These are people in the far right who have consistently stood against Muslim rights and the Muslim community, but they are weaponizing the issue of LGBT, which is something that, yes, Islam has strong opinions on, the same way that the religious right in Canada, the Christian right, has strong opinions against as well. They're using those fears to drive a wedge between the government that will always stand up for all your rights, just like I will always stand up for the rights of LGBT kids, including if they're LGBT Muslim kids.
And standing up for everyone's rights is what you get with a Liberal government. We're going to defend your rights even when you disagree with us defending other people's rights, and how we work to get along in this country, and listen to each other and prevent people from activating baseless fears around lies and around, as you said, scaring your parents into what's actually being taught. That is hurting the fabric of respect and openness that allows Canada to be one of the places where we support and defend the Muslim community more than just about any other Western country in the world."
The interviewer said they appreciate that, but asked about an Edmonton teacher who told children they should leave Canada because they didn't participate at Pride. Trudeau asked, "And what happened to that teacher?" The interview said, "She just vanished; nobody knows what happened to her." Trudeau explained, "That teacher got serious consequences because that is not something that is acceptable." The interviewer wanted the government to make it clear they don't support that. Trudeau responded,
"The federal government doesn't control what happens to teachers in the school system, but it does not represent my position or the federal government's position that people need to be chastised for their religious beliefs. People are free to have their religious beliefs. In fact, within all of that, we have to make sure we are standing up and defending everyone's rights within a community, that includes the right to be who you are, and to love who you love, and that I know your parents' generation might have a little more uncertainty about that, and that's where this generation and your kids' generation can show that have the thoughts and what comes from the responsibility that comes with being in a free country that stands up for everyone's rights is that we will stand up for everyone's rights including people from the LGBT community who are facing increasing levels of violence and hatred at the same time as the Muslim community is facing increasing levels of violence and hatred at the same time as the Asian community is facing... Like, the world is going in the wrong direction. One thing we don't need right now is for communities that are facing hatred to start turning on each other rather than figure out how to support each other, how to listen, how to understand each other, and work together.
That's what Canada is. And it's not easy. And it causes clashes in cultures. But when it comes right down to it, the ability to stand up for everyone's rights is what makes Canada the freest and the most successful country in the world."
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Trudeau is right that the federal government has no say in what happens in schools. He should have ended his remarks there, because the rest is bafflegab.
He gaslights a Muslim audience that "the federal government is unequivocal about standing for everybody's rights and freedoms." If that's true, why hasn't his government challenged Quebec's laïcité law that discriminates against hijab-wearing Muslim women in public sector employment? The federal government by right could take the matter straight to the Supreme Court, but by doing nothing it puts the time and financial burden on civil society groups to stickhandle a challenge through the court system.
He then goes on about the Charter, which explicitly protects religious belief (and non-belief) and sex-based equality rights, while being silent on gender identity rights. He shows no understanding that many people, especially religious women, are upset that their objective sex-based rights and protections are being undermined by subjective and unverifiable gender identity claims. The women who fought for equality rights didn't claim to be men. The gays and lesbians who fought for same-sex rights didn't claim to be straight. But trans is about claiming the identities and rights of others. It's mostly about males, a physically and historically dominant group, claiming the identities, rights and protections of females, a subordinate group. This is unprecedented.
Unfortunately, gender identity and expression, irrational concepts that neither the Canadian Human Rights Act nor the Ontario Human Rights Code care to define, is yet another matter that his government is cravenly foisting onto civil society and the courts to figure out.
Overriding the laïcité law issue is complex, and he could arguably do more, but he did make his stance very loud clear in support of the hijab. But it's not gaslighting to tell them there's no conspiracy to try to convert their kids. The trans community has been around since recorded history. It's nothing new, even if we may not have it explained specifically enough in legal documents. Gender identity and expression is an inclusive term. In teens, they have a higher suicide rate, and they need serious protection from hate groups. I know many people who are trans and NB, and the majority were labelled female at birth; Canadian stats show a small difference (53%:47%), so I don't think it's a way for males to try to get the rights of females. Every trans or NB person I've met, mainly just wants to be left alone to get on with their lives and make it safely home each night.
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